Intimidation is a skill tied to Persuasion that is more greatly affected by level disparity.
Artificial Incident
Intimidation is a skill tied to Persuasion that is more greatly affected by level disparity.
I feel like we missed a page.
Or at least a panel? Something setting the stakes? The rules?
i don’t feel so
there were no stakes or rules
kaylin was making an opening for their enemies by causing a distraction
the stake was to get everyone’s eyes on her and i guess to embarrass the earl
Yeah I’m not really sure what rules they expect to be set here. It’s not a drinking contest, she’s literally paralyzed him with fear and is force feeding him wine making a scene and humiliating him. There is no back and forth- he doesn’t win anything if he drinks all the wine- if he did manage… she would just ask for more wine…
Only a few people have a noble status in the kingdom that grants any bonus stats to an NPC to deal with things like persuasion and intimidation. If they didn’t, players could have just intimidated the king or his closest advisors to give up treasures from the vault or possibly taken land for player homes. XD
Sometimes the pacing gets wonky.
We know Kaylin wanted to do something but the jump from ordering wine to having the earl restrained and forcefeeding him wine is a huge jump, it feels like there are panels missing
Like I said, a panel- it just feels like a really hard jump cut between them trading barbs to him begging for help and being force fed wine. It’s OKAY (I wasn’t going to say anything if someone else hadn’t) but it’s abrupt enough that I am still having a hard time imagining what the scene immediately after last comic was, or immediately before this one, and as a reader, it’s not a great feeling. I can totally accept there was no deal or stakes or anything, it just feels like we missed something.
In my opinion, for what it’s worth (let alone after the fact) it may have been better to skip straight to the last panel. It wouldn’t have reinforced how terrifying Kaylin can be to NPCs when she wants, but people are plenty capable of imagining a thousand ways she could leave Owenbeck senseless on the floor.
That is certainly one way to deal with such a rude person! Not to mention an effective means of saying to the other guests: Don’t insult Kaylin!
Also, an opportunity to provide an excuse to get some of the guards out of the room, creating the “opening” for their enemies to make their move with.
You know, depending now drunk he already was, she might have been killing him- LD50 for alcohol is around 13 shots. A bit more for the earl probably, since he’s a bit heavier set.
Then again, I doubt Elli was has acute ethanol toxicity programmed in (it doesn’t seem like something Callum would have fixed yet either) so alcohol probably works approximately how we expect it to work- if you drink too much you might pass out, but you only die from choking on vomit or the like (if that) not from the ethanol removing your ability to breathe like a neurotoxin.
are you talking 13 shots of spirits… they are often around 40% alcohol by volume
wine is much weaker by comparison
I would like to point out that in most fantasy games that gave you alcohol, a single drink was usually enough for them to start making your vision blurry. In Skyrim, it only took 3 drinks before you got black out drunk and went on a tear through Skyrim that took you from Whiterun, to Rorikstead, to Markarth, to the area outside of Windhelm where you pledged to marry a hagraven… Even got a wedding ring from a woman in Whiterun and its unclear if you got it before or after you met the hag… You also steal a goat and give it to a giant and wreck a temple.
This is also probably worse than normal binge drinking… which is 4-5 drinks in under 2 hours- this is 4 glasses of wine in a few minutes? He’s certainly already had a few already within the past hour. So- yeah, might not kill him but that’s way too much alcohol XD
True, but that wine WAS implied to be empowered by Sanguine, either by his hand or by his presence. And your three drinks kept you in a drunken revelry state of mind as you run hither and yon across ALL of Skyrim
Plus, there could have been more drinks involved as well that were not mentioned as being too minor a detail to note. With a situation like that, probably a lot more happened in between, but it was not significant. We just got the important highlights of that escapade.
Enough drinks to encourage you to keep drinking across the bender lmao. It’s okay, you can probably get the wedding annulled when you say you were too drunk to agree to it. No helping the babies you put in her though
That was so specific and detailed lol- can you just recite those exploits without notes?
Yes 13 shots of 40%, drunk within a few minutes (some people think “oh I’ve drunk more than that” by which they mean across 5 or 6 hours of partying). Wine… varies, a lot. A standard 6 oz pour would have similar alcohol… for usual 10% wines. Fortified wines like are much stronger, and those don’t look like 6 oz pours, so who knows? But also- everything Sage said lmao
‘Why are you all just watching?’
Because nobody LIKES you.
YOU insulted the elven envoy.
You suffer her wrath.
I disagree with that statement.
He OUTRIGHT insulted the DIPLOMATIC GUESTS to their faces. In modern Eurocentric politics, that is a political death sentence. In medieval Eurocentric politics, you would need to be pretty damn confident that you had sufficient power and/or allies, preferably both, to deal with the repercussions of your actions. If there was ANY doubt to that question, then a War could easily start.
A way to think about it is to mention Chivalry. Chivalry was the Rules of War, and they were created not because of some big Noble Sentiment, but for practical reasons. Europeans went to war, killed farmers and stole or destroyed crops, only to win the war and have no farmers or crops and the people living in the places they conquered pretty upset about the fact that their friends are dead and they don’t have any food. And if a populace is unhappy enough, they’re liable to gather together as a mob and riot. And a proper Mob Riot is terrifying, regardless of the era you’re in.
The little piggy got his just drink’s
I’d say, what, 20-30% chance Le baron has some new kinks going down the road?…
ah, the spelling thing. You know that’s still used these days?